WRC hooaeg 2019
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Ma arvan et see M-Spordi teema on puhas promotrikk. Just saadi ju valmis suur testi rada oma baasi juurde ei usu et see nüüd lihtsalt lagunema jääb. Ja ka paljude muude investeeringutega millest eratiimil nii lihtne pole äahti õelda.
See aga lihtsalt minu arvamus kuid arvasin sama ka VW suhtes aga vaata mis juhtus
Minu panus et järgmine aasta sõidavad Fordiga Sunninen ja Tidemand. Loodan et äkki võetakse ka Paddon aga see vist jääb pelgalt lootmiseks. Mads läheb tundub et Rallyx
Eks varsti näis paljuga puusse panin
See aga lihtsalt minu arvamus kuid arvasin sama ka VW suhtes aga vaata mis juhtus
Minu panus et järgmine aasta sõidavad Fordiga Sunninen ja Tidemand. Loodan et äkki võetakse ka Paddon aga see vist jääb pelgalt lootmiseks. Mads läheb tundub et Rallyx
Eks varsti näis paljuga puusse panin
Viimati muutis Silk, 19 Dets 2018, 14:53, muudetud 1 kord kokku.
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Silk kirjutas:Ma arvan et see M-Spordi teema on puhas promotrikk. Just saadi ju valmis suur testi rada oma baasi juurde ei usu et see nüüd lihtsalt lagunema jääb. Ja ka paljude muude investeeringutega millest eratiimil nii lihtne pole lahti õelda.
See aga lihtsalt minu arvamus kuid arvasin sama ka VW suhtes aga vaata mis juhtus
Minu panus et järgmine aasta sõidavad Forsiga Sunninen ja Tidemand. Loodan et äkki võetakse ka Paddon aga see vist jääb pelgalt lootmiseks. Mads läheb tundub et Rallyx
Eks varsti näis paljuga puusse panin
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Paddon ju kindel ei, sest seotud NZ Hyundaiga. Madsil pidi olema WRC2ga mingi diil paigas vist ja kui, siis teeb mõned RX etapid kaasa, sest kõiki ei pidavat jõudma.
Breenist täielik vaikus ainult..?
Breenist täielik vaikus ainult..?
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M-Sportil on R5, R2, Bentley ja tänavaautod. Küll see polügon nii või naa ära kulub.
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M-Spordi suurim probleem on see, et pole häid sõitjaid, kelles rikkad onud perspektiivi näeks ja neid toetaks. On vaid Suninen, kelle peale Jouhki on nõus miljoneid kulutama, et siis see summa tulevikus tõenäoliselt suurema protsendina tagasi saada.
Breen, Paddon, Evans, Tidemand. No ei ole seda talenti, ma arvan, et isegi kui nad soomlased oleks, jääks nad Jouhki orbiidist välja. Tidemand on ainuke neist, kellest võib olla oleks võinud midagigi saada aga ma arvan, et temaga jäädi hiljaks, vanust juba 28 ja jäi WRC2 sarja liiga kauaks, nii kauaks, et 10 aastat noorem Rovanperä suutis juba sarjaga liituda ja pähe hakata tegema, ei paista just hea.
Kes neid nelja toetavad, need peavad olema kas täis totud või suurimad heategijad, sest see pole võrreldav Grossi ja mõne muu eesti tegelase toetamisega Tänakusse, kelles oli näha juba noorelt talendisähvakaid ja lihvimatta teemanti.
Breen, Paddon, Evans, Tidemand. No ei ole seda talenti, ma arvan, et isegi kui nad soomlased oleks, jääks nad Jouhki orbiidist välja. Tidemand on ainuke neist, kellest võib olla oleks võinud midagigi saada aga ma arvan, et temaga jäädi hiljaks, vanust juba 28 ja jäi WRC2 sarja liiga kauaks, nii kauaks, et 10 aastat noorem Rovanperä suutis juba sarjaga liituda ja pähe hakata tegema, ei paista just hea.
Kes neid nelja toetavad, need peavad olema kas täis totud või suurimad heategijad, sest see pole võrreldav Grossi ja mõne muu eesti tegelase toetamisega Tänakusse, kelles oli näha juba noorelt talendisähvakaid ja lihvimatta teemanti.
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Paddon oli kiirem, kui Neuville ja võimeline kruusal poodiumile sõitma. Härra Neuville muutus sellest veel aeglasemaks. Arendas enda järgi uue auto, Paddoni eraelulised probleemid+ traagiline Monte ja asendati veel enne hooaja lõppu Mikkelseniga...ka kogenud vend, rallivõitja ja MMi kolmas. Temast saadi vaid paar punkti vähem poole hooajaga... Kruusarallidel ilmselt oleks arvestatav tegija, kõvakattel kogemusi napib, kahjuks.
Breen, nojah, pole ka veel tervet hooaega sõita saanud ja eks seal Citroenis asjaajamised olid nagu nad olid, tõenäoliselt ikka palju enamaks võimeline.
Evans...nojah, mitu täishooaega, üks võit DMacki eelisega, paar poodiumi ja ongi nagu kõik. Ahjaa, Ogieri aitas ka mitmel korral, mis tema esitusi pärssisid.
Tidemand, kogemus WRC eelmise generatsiooniga olemas, enamikelt rallidelt samuti, WRC2 aeglane ei olnud ning kuna praegune WRC on hoopis teine maailm, siis mine tea. Vanus kasuks ei tule.
E: Pontus vist ongi M-Spordis, lisaks sellele, et Evans Breeni kaardilugeja võttis. https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/decembe ... 2-12-.html
Breen, nojah, pole ka veel tervet hooaega sõita saanud ja eks seal Citroenis asjaajamised olid nagu nad olid, tõenäoliselt ikka palju enamaks võimeline.
Evans...nojah, mitu täishooaega, üks võit DMacki eelisega, paar poodiumi ja ongi nagu kõik. Ahjaa, Ogieri aitas ka mitmel korral, mis tema esitusi pärssisid.
Tidemand, kogemus WRC eelmise generatsiooniga olemas, enamikelt rallidelt samuti, WRC2 aeglane ei olnud ning kuna praegune WRC on hoopis teine maailm, siis mine tea. Vanus kasuks ei tule.
E: Pontus vist ongi M-Spordis, lisaks sellele, et Evans Breeni kaardilugeja võttis. https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/decembe ... 2-12-.html
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Varsti juba uus hooaeg algamas, aga silly season käib täiega.. WRC lehe andmetel on Evansi uueks kaardilugejaks Scott Martin ja varsti peaks nad olema ka MC rallil kirjas.. ehk siis mis saab Breenist 2019?
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Oijah.. nüüd võib kõva häälega kurb olla..
http://m.sport.delfi.ee/wrc/article.php?id=84817471
http://m.sport.delfi.ee/wrc/article.php?id=84817471
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4.2 WRC 2 CHAMPIONSHIP: All cars must comply with the 2019 FIA Appendix J regulations for:
- Group R5 cars
8.2 PARTICIPATION IN FIA WRC 2 PRO
8.2.1 In order to score points in the WRC 2 Pro Championship for Manufacturers, Drivers and CoDrivers, a Manufacturer must register with the FIA before the closing date of entries of the first rally entered.
Registration in the WRC 2 Pro Championships is set at €150,000. Any manufacturer registered as per Art. 7.2 does not need to pay the individual WRC 2 Pro Championships fee for Manufacturers. (Ford, Citroen ja Hyundai seega tasuta)
8.2.2 Registration in the Championships, set at an additional fee of €10,000 per car must be made in the name of a team holding a current and valid competitor’s licence which includes the name of the manufacturer. Drivers and Co-drivers are not required to register.
8.2.3 Any manufacturer registered in WRC 2 Pro may not enter more than two (2) cars in each championship rally and must participate in a minimum of 7 rallies with a minimum of one car, including one rally outside of Europe. All cars will be taken into account for the points.
8.2.4 In order to score WRC 2 Pro Championship points, the entry in individual rallies must be made
using the FIA standard entry form in the name of the competitor as stated on the licence used to register in this Support Championship.
8.2.5 When a Manufacturer enters a rally as per Art. 8.2.4, the driver and co-driver will automatically score points.
8.3 PARTICIPATION IN FIA WRC 2
8.3.1 In order to score points in the WRC 2 Championship, competitors must register with the FIA before the closing date of entries of the first rally entered. Registration for the WRC 2 Championship, set at €3,000, must be made in the name of a driver holding a current and valid competitor’s licence. Co-drivers are not required to register.
8.3.2 In order to score WRC 2 Championship points, the entry in individual rallies must be made using the FIA standard entry form in the name of the competitor as stated on the licence used to register in eachSupport Championship. Any entry thus submitted shall always be considered as one of the 7 rallies as per Article 8.4.4, unless the Stewards grant a case of force majeure upon individual application which must be supported by clear evidence. This standard entry form must be sent to the rally organiser and to the FIA.
8.3.3 WRC 2 registered competitors/drivers wishing to enter a rally without scoring WRC 2
Championship points shall enter as a non-priority driver.
8.4 POINTS
8.4.1 For the awarding of points, a separate classification of the manufacturers, drivers and co-drivers eligible to score points in that specific rally will be drawn from the general classification. Points scored in the Support Championships shall always be in the name of the manufacturer, driver and co-driver.
8.4.2 The WRC 2 Pro Champion titles for Manufacturers, will be awarded to the manufacturer who have scored the highest number of points at the end of the year. All the results will be taken into account when drawing up the final classification of the Championship.
8.4.3 The WRC 2 Pro Champion titles for Drivers and Co-Drivers will be awarded to the driver and codriver who have scored the highest number of points from 8 of the rallies in which they were entered by a manufacturer registered in the WRC 2 Pro Championship.
8.4.4 The WRC 2 Champion titles for Drivers and Co-Drivers will be awarded to the driver and co-driver who have scored the highest number of points from 6 of the first 7 rallies which they have entered to score points. In the remaining rallies they may neither score nor detract points from other registered drivers.
Lisaks on WRC2 Pro kõrgema prioriteediga kui tavaline wrc2, mis mängib rolli autode stardijärjestuses.
11.6.1 For sections of a rally run entirely on asphalt, one route note car may be used for each driver entered with a World Rally car or eligible to score points in the WRC 2 Pro Championship
17.2 Competition numbers between 21 and 40 for WRC 2 Pro competitors and between 41 and 70 for WRC 2 competitors shall be allocated rally by rally, according to the provisional classification of the Championships concerned. Greater numbers may be allocated if required.4
49.2.2 The schedule for each car in the service park is as follows: 40 minutes between two groups of stages (varem 30min)
61.1 Nominated tyre companies are only Michelin and Pirelli (vajalik nii WRC kui ka R5 autodele)
64. MECHANICAL COMPONENTS – WRC MANUFACTURERS' CARS NOMINATED FOR SCORING MANUFACTURERS' POINTS
64.1 LIMITATION OF THE NUMBER OF ENGINES
64.1.1 Each Manufacturer must use no more than 3 engines per car name (see also Art. 64.2.2).
64.1.2 Each engine will be assigned to a specific car name.
64.4 RESTRICTIONS ON CHASSIS
64.4.1 For cars entered by Manufacturers for the purpose of scoring points in the Manufacturers'
Championship, the use of chassis per season (testing not included) without incurring a penalty will be limited as follows:
- 9 chassis for each Manufacturer.
64.9 LINKED RALLIES
64.9.1 Rally Argentina / Rally Chile
64.9.2 Rally Portugal / Rally Italy
66. TESTING
66.1.1 On a permanent testing site proposed by the Manufacturer before its first rally of the year and notified to the FIA. The area of the permanent testing site shall be within a diameter of 10km (maximum radius of 5 km)
66.2 PERMITTED TESTING SITES FOR P1 DRIVERS ENTERED WITH WRC CARS
For drivers entered with WRC cars complying with the 2019 Appendix J, Art. 255A, testing is permitted in European countries only.
66.4.2 In the case of a Manufacturer, a maximum of 42 days in any calendar year. This clause does not apply to testing as stated in Art. 66.1.1.
66.4.3 A single test day also covers the possibility for 2 or more drivers and/or more than one WRC car to test on the same test road, only if these drivers are not testing at the same time.
66.4.4 For Manufacturers, 7 additional test days may be allocated to each team in addition to Art.66.4.2. These additional days will only be applicable to guest drivers who have not been nominated to score points up to the requested testing date in the Manufacturers Championship in the previous or current year. Teams should advise the FIA of any guest drivers’ test, by email, five days in advance, with copy to all other registered teams (no test form required).
Fees for: World Rally Championship for Manufacturers
Registration fee: €319,830
Rally Entry fee: 3 autot = €43,695 (611,730 hooaeg) / 2 autot = €37,000 (518,000 hooaeg)
4.2 WRC 2 CHAMPIONSHIP: All cars must comply with the 2019 FIA Appendix J regulations for:
- Group R5 cars
8.2 PARTICIPATION IN FIA WRC 2 PRO
8.2.1 In order to score points in the WRC 2 Pro Championship for Manufacturers, Drivers and CoDrivers, a Manufacturer must register with the FIA before the closing date of entries of the first rally entered.
Registration in the WRC 2 Pro Championships is set at €150,000. Any manufacturer registered as per Art. 7.2 does not need to pay the individual WRC 2 Pro Championships fee for Manufacturers. (Ford, Citroen ja Hyundai seega tasuta)
8.2.2 Registration in the Championships, set at an additional fee of €10,000 per car must be made in the name of a team holding a current and valid competitor’s licence which includes the name of the manufacturer. Drivers and Co-drivers are not required to register.
8.2.3 Any manufacturer registered in WRC 2 Pro may not enter more than two (2) cars in each championship rally and must participate in a minimum of 7 rallies with a minimum of one car, including one rally outside of Europe. All cars will be taken into account for the points.
8.2.4 In order to score WRC 2 Pro Championship points, the entry in individual rallies must be made
using the FIA standard entry form in the name of the competitor as stated on the licence used to register in this Support Championship.
8.2.5 When a Manufacturer enters a rally as per Art. 8.2.4, the driver and co-driver will automatically score points.
8.3 PARTICIPATION IN FIA WRC 2
8.3.1 In order to score points in the WRC 2 Championship, competitors must register with the FIA before the closing date of entries of the first rally entered. Registration for the WRC 2 Championship, set at €3,000, must be made in the name of a driver holding a current and valid competitor’s licence. Co-drivers are not required to register.
8.3.2 In order to score WRC 2 Championship points, the entry in individual rallies must be made using the FIA standard entry form in the name of the competitor as stated on the licence used to register in eachSupport Championship. Any entry thus submitted shall always be considered as one of the 7 rallies as per Article 8.4.4, unless the Stewards grant a case of force majeure upon individual application which must be supported by clear evidence. This standard entry form must be sent to the rally organiser and to the FIA.
8.3.3 WRC 2 registered competitors/drivers wishing to enter a rally without scoring WRC 2
Championship points shall enter as a non-priority driver.
8.4 POINTS
8.4.1 For the awarding of points, a separate classification of the manufacturers, drivers and co-drivers eligible to score points in that specific rally will be drawn from the general classification. Points scored in the Support Championships shall always be in the name of the manufacturer, driver and co-driver.
8.4.2 The WRC 2 Pro Champion titles for Manufacturers, will be awarded to the manufacturer who have scored the highest number of points at the end of the year. All the results will be taken into account when drawing up the final classification of the Championship.
8.4.3 The WRC 2 Pro Champion titles for Drivers and Co-Drivers will be awarded to the driver and codriver who have scored the highest number of points from 8 of the rallies in which they were entered by a manufacturer registered in the WRC 2 Pro Championship.
8.4.4 The WRC 2 Champion titles for Drivers and Co-Drivers will be awarded to the driver and co-driver who have scored the highest number of points from 6 of the first 7 rallies which they have entered to score points. In the remaining rallies they may neither score nor detract points from other registered drivers.
Lisaks on WRC2 Pro kõrgema prioriteediga kui tavaline wrc2, mis mängib rolli autode stardijärjestuses.
11.6.1 For sections of a rally run entirely on asphalt, one route note car may be used for each driver entered with a World Rally car or eligible to score points in the WRC 2 Pro Championship
17.2 Competition numbers between 21 and 40 for WRC 2 Pro competitors and between 41 and 70 for WRC 2 competitors shall be allocated rally by rally, according to the provisional classification of the Championships concerned. Greater numbers may be allocated if required.4
49.2.2 The schedule for each car in the service park is as follows: 40 minutes between two groups of stages (varem 30min)
61.1 Nominated tyre companies are only Michelin and Pirelli (vajalik nii WRC kui ka R5 autodele)
64. MECHANICAL COMPONENTS – WRC MANUFACTURERS' CARS NOMINATED FOR SCORING MANUFACTURERS' POINTS
64.1 LIMITATION OF THE NUMBER OF ENGINES
64.1.1 Each Manufacturer must use no more than 3 engines per car name (see also Art. 64.2.2).
64.1.2 Each engine will be assigned to a specific car name.
64.4 RESTRICTIONS ON CHASSIS
64.4.1 For cars entered by Manufacturers for the purpose of scoring points in the Manufacturers'
Championship, the use of chassis per season (testing not included) without incurring a penalty will be limited as follows:
- 9 chassis for each Manufacturer.
64.9 LINKED RALLIES
64.9.1 Rally Argentina / Rally Chile
64.9.2 Rally Portugal / Rally Italy
66. TESTING
66.1.1 On a permanent testing site proposed by the Manufacturer before its first rally of the year and notified to the FIA. The area of the permanent testing site shall be within a diameter of 10km (maximum radius of 5 km)
66.2 PERMITTED TESTING SITES FOR P1 DRIVERS ENTERED WITH WRC CARS
For drivers entered with WRC cars complying with the 2019 Appendix J, Art. 255A, testing is permitted in European countries only.
66.4.2 In the case of a Manufacturer, a maximum of 42 days in any calendar year. This clause does not apply to testing as stated in Art. 66.1.1.
66.4.3 A single test day also covers the possibility for 2 or more drivers and/or more than one WRC car to test on the same test road, only if these drivers are not testing at the same time.
66.4.4 For Manufacturers, 7 additional test days may be allocated to each team in addition to Art.66.4.2. These additional days will only be applicable to guest drivers who have not been nominated to score points up to the requested testing date in the Manufacturers Championship in the previous or current year. Teams should advise the FIA of any guest drivers’ test, by email, five days in advance, with copy to all other registered teams (no test form required).
Fees for: World Rally Championship for Manufacturers
Registration fee: €319,830
Rally Entry fee: 3 autot = €43,695 (611,730 hooaeg) / 2 autot = €37,000 (518,000 hooaeg)
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Väidetavalt siis Pontus Montes ja Rootsis M-Sport WRC autoga peal. Täpsemalt pidi selguma peale kella 15.00
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Nii on, need 2 rallit nüüd Pontusel siis paigas
Lappi juba kiidab, Citroen parem kui Toyota
http://m.sport.delfi.ee/wrc/article.php?id=84826417
Lappi juba kiidab, Citroen parem kui Toyota
http://m.sport.delfi.ee/wrc/article.php?id=84826417
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Arvestades tõsiasja, et Peter Solberg on Pontusele põhimõtteliselt motherfu...er, siis imestan ma juba ammu, et miks ta WRC-s ei ole. Aga ilmselt ongi põhjus selles eelmainitud tiimi poliitikas. Kuna Peetril tuleb ka krossis väike vahe aasta, siis loodame, et mõned sponsorrahad liiguvad Peetri tiimist ka Pontuse toetuseks.maailmameister kirjutas:Väidetavalt siis Pontus Montes ja Rootsis M-Sport WRC autoga peal. Täpsemalt pidi selguma peale kella 15.00
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Veits delfinaarium, aga kas mitte Henning pole kasuisa?Mati kirjutas:Arvestades tõsiasja, et Peter Solberg on Pontusele põhimõtteliselt motherfu...er, siis imestan ma juba ammu, et miks ta WRC-s ei ole. Aga ilmselt ongi põhjus selles eelmainitud tiimi poliitikas. Kuna Peetril tuleb ka krossis väike vahe aasta, siis loodame, et mõned sponsorrahad liiguvad Peetri tiimist ka Pontuse toetuseks.maailmameister kirjutas:Väidetavalt siis Pontus Montes ja Rootsis M-Sport WRC autoga peal. Täpsemalt pidi selguma peale kella 15.00
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Ai pekki muidugi. Vabandan, minu viga. Aga no one big happy family.Mart_ kirjutas: Veits delfinaarium, aga kas mitte Henning pole kasuisa?
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M- Sport ikka tiimina ka kirjas: https://www.fia.com/news/2019-fia-world ... p-entrants
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STI kirjutas:M- Sport ikka tiimina ka kirjas: https://www.fia.com/news/2019-fia-world ... p-entrants
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Papa Wilson pani siis ameti maha. Uus tiimi boss on Rich Millener.
https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/decembe ... 2-12-.html
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Man and machine against mother nature!!!
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